[c] 2009 by Zorek Richards
In response to Josh Harris’ “Stop Dating the Church”

The basic teaching suggests that too many people only casually “date” the church and get involved with little to no commitment when he suggests that they should be doing more. The problem with the book is that it acts as a cheerleader for people to not date the church, but does not relate any real problems with the church and reasons why people might not commit. It draws most of its analogies from man/woman dating scenarios. The problem with that analogie is that there are two churches, the worldly one and the conglomeration of people who are part of Christs body. In marriage, there is either two or none…..(or a third with the chord of three-strands).
I recently sat through portions of a Bible study based around the book by Josh Harris at a local St George Baptist church (Lighthouse). This was a loose study where the “teacher/church pastor” regularly claimed to have “forgotten” the book so unless someone found one for themselves, it was left to him to select what was read. I was familiar with Harris from a previous book he had written called “I Kissed Dating Goodbye. Having enjoyed Harris other dating book, and it had gained much acclaim, I ended up thinking maybe he was just trying to capitalize on a previous success. After all, it is my observation that there is so many religious books being written but most seek a commercial audience, and, hence, follow a pattern which will guarantee a book might sell many rather than being really interested. There are some diamonds in the mix, but you really have to look hard.
I have since found a copy of the book, and it does add a little more than I heard in the Wednesday night “bible study.” I remember attending a Baptist mega-church once in Overland Park where a pastor promoted and even gave a copy of a book about giving to all the congregation, and started to use the book in a series of Wednesday night sermons. Having read the entire book, I knew very well there was an issue coming up in Chapter 7 that I know he did not agree with and it would risk his church nest egg if he preached it. Well, he stopped at Chapter 6. Go figure.
On mega churches, Kristin Uhrig on Face Book wrote” After having served on the board of a “mega-church” for three years, I wrote an open letter to the elders to address a glaring problem. We were 5,000 strong on any given weekend, but through surveys we discovered that about 70% of our congregation were unbelievers. of the remaining 30%, about half were disciples and rest were mere converts. The church did not have a single missionary that it supported. There was no question that the leaders of the church had done an outstanding job of marketing. Crowds flowed in and out like the tide…as long as they felt encouraged and entertained. It was, as you have said, very much like serial dating. But year after year, no one had a better knowledge of Scripture, not even the staff…but they had read the latest best-selling Christian book. No one had ever mentioned sin or judgement and the orthodox doctrines of the faith were as dusty and undisturbed as a book on the top shelf in the back of the Library of Congress.” And mega churches, appear to have a mega set of problems that go with it.
The problem I saw through the Wednesday night Lighthouse teaching was the problem differentiating between the church as a whole, and the church as a building. The last night I attended (before its completion), I had said that there is a problem with the churches image and that needs to be addressed. Jim Lowry, the pastor and teacher of this class, stated: “If you would have asked that question to some other people they would have scolded you and said the church has no image problem. The church is Jesus Christ and He has no problem.”
That was Jim’s way of saying that if he didn’t have to be polite in a church meeting, he would have let me have it. Not a surprise since he has generally made efforts to side-step any and all questions I ever brought up in the “study.” However, the church DOES have an image problem. And that is the issue that has to be addressed. It’s not the angels in the choir, it is the ones pointing to the angels in the choir that are causing problems. I believe that every generation is required to address the issue of their generation. There are groups that are now going so far as to suggest that everyone get out of the church. “Ichabod” could be written across the doors of many of them. However, the church would just paint over it and claim “it must of just been some silly teen vandals.”
I am not an advocate (yet) of getting out of the churches. They have not gone the way of the public school system in which I do advocate that people get their kids out of it if they can.
Oft times the ambiguousness of the Bible is the wisdom of it. Though written in antiquity, it had to reach many generations to come. Many skeptics today claim it is irrelevant because it is so old. What they fail to compare is the fact that science and any philosophy of man has its beginnings in antiquity and was built up on from there. For our purposes it does not say at any place that a person should go to church every Sunday, at least not in those direct words. It hints about worship, and not forsaking the community. “Church” as it might be known back then was rarely a great bunch of sermons, but originally just the church leaders reading from the Law, and then after Jesus, they preached nothing but Christ crucified. This pastor at this local church I mentioned reacted insultingly when I mentioned that in the study and told me it was not so and that there were many instances mentioned int he Bible where men gave personal testimonies to win people to Christ. He, of course, could provide any evidence of any in a follow up email, except to reference Paul’s testimony as he was being judged. Paul was giving his credentials as a Roman citizen who once persecuted Christians with much zeal, and explained that Christ intervened.
A facebook member, MaryMargaret Amble, wrote: OK, you have hit upon a raw nerve with me here. Religion V God: pretend for a moment you are Satan and you are determined to discredit God and hurt His followers, where would you go to be most effective? The bar? A sporting event? A restaurant? Or the “church” where there are so many who are questioning, challenging, confused and there for the wrong reasons.
Sun Tzu: keep your friends close and your enemies closer. “The church” is prime time for Satan and his works. I have chosen to reject religion, in order to embrace God. I admit that I have to do a lot more work to hear God’s message: but I take on that challenge with my eyes wide open and my heart committed to His word and His message. When I attend church, I never fail to hear and get His message: but at what price? There are good, committed Christians committed to religion, but there is an underlying current of evil, confusion, disinformation and humanity that is inherently flawed. I choose God. I choose Jesus Christ. His message: Love one another. There is too much animosity and judgment within churches. That is Satan’s weapon. Satan is powerful and effective: his greatest weapon is organized religion.”
I would just note that “organized religion” is often a catch phrase which basically means the church as a worldly institution. To the unchurched void of Jesus, that is all they can see. And for the most part they see a social club which attaches the word “God” to it now and again. However, I want to be clear that I am not necessarily sanctioning the person who says “I do not need to go to a church to see God or worship, I can got to nature or any other place.” This may be so, but it is the rare person that actually does that in lieu of a service, and it of more times than not is an excuse to justify there lack of involvement with anything or anyone Christian. I see as equal one of my greatest pet peeves of those who like to say “I will pray for you” as an excuse to not have to get involved personally.
And, on the same token, I realize that since the worldly institution is just that: an institution of churches created in the world by men, that I do not want to suggest getting over critical. People are people and mistakes will be made. There are tares among the wheat. But, I think those things occur in spite of the direction the church and the direction of the church will be clear. If those problems seem to be the dominant theme..than there is a problem with leadership somewhere, and I do not mean Jesus Christ.
The crux of the message by Harris and pastors like Lowry of Lighthouse is that they seem to lament that there is a problem with members commitment, but at the same time, none of these are new pastors. They have been around for awhile. But, rather than point their finger at themselves, they blame the members and potential members for their failings. Pastor Lowry, a former used car salesman, still used that approach but maybe he would do people a favor by going back and selling cars. The fruit of the dissent in his church is non confidentiality if you counsel with him (in other words, don’t tell him secrets that you do not want heard elsewhere), and he does not want people he cannot use for his purposes. People like me, who he knows he cannot control, are useless to his purpose and hence he had absolutely no problem in attempting any effort to make me even consider staying at “his” church, with emphasis on the “his.” And I mention that only to maybe strike a chord with some people who experience similar issues……..as I know it is not just a select issue at a the Lighthouse church in St George, Kansas.
In the end, God will win, and the key is remaining his servant. Pastors every where will dislike my message, save for the few who have a real interest in God, Jesus and preaching only him and Him crucified. Until then, I may need to date the church for awhile just to keep my commitment to the real church, ie, the body of Christ.